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Introduction: Alex Chernavsky writes: I recently came across an interesting blog post , written by someone who is self-taught in statistics (not that there’s anything wrong with that). I have no particular expertise in statistics, but her analysis looks impressive to me. I’d be very interested to find out the opinion of a professional statistician. Do you have any interest in blogging about this subject? My (disappointing, I’m sure) reply: This indeed looks interesting. I don’t have the time/energy to look at it more right now, and it’s too far from any areas of my expertise for me to give any kind of quick informed opinion. It would be good for this sort of discussion to appear in a nutrition journal where the real experts could get at it. I expect there are some strong statisticians who work in that field, although I don’t really know for sure. P.S. I suppose I really should try to learn more about this sort of thing, as it could well affect my life more than a lot of other subje


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