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Introduction: Partly in response to my blog on the Harlem Children’s Zone study, Mark Palko wrote this : Talk of education reform always makes me [Palko] deeply nervous. Part of the anxiety comes having spent a number of years behind the podium and having seen the disparity between the claims and the reality of previous reforms. The rest comes from being a statistician and knowing what things like convergence can do to data. Convergent behavior violates the assumption of independent observations used in most simple analyses, but educational studies commonly, perhaps even routinely ignore the complex ways that social norming can cause the nesting of student performance data. In other words, educational research is often based of the idea that teenagers do not respond to peer pressure. . . . and this : When you isolate a group of students, they will quickly arrive at a consensus of what constitutes normal behavior. It is a complex and somewhat unpredictable process driven by personali


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3 Convergent behavior violates the assumption of independent observations used in most simple analyses, but educational studies commonly, perhaps even routinely ignore the complex ways that social norming can cause the nesting of student performance data. [sent-4, score-0.779]

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13 Because we are thinking about spending an enormous amount of time, effort and money on a major overhaul of the education system when we don’t have the data to tell us if what we’ll spend will wasted or, worse yet, if we are to some extent playing a zero sum game. [sent-22, score-0.355]

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15 Educational reform is not like climate change where observational data is our only reasonable option. [sent-26, score-0.137]


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