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Introduction: Jeff Helzner writes: A friend of mine and I cited your open data article in our attempts to persuade a professor at another institution [Brian Leiter] into releasing the raw data from his influential rankings of philosophy departments. He is now claiming the national security response: . . . disclosing the reputational data would violate the terms on which the evaluators agreed to complete the surveys (did they even bother to read the description of the methodology, one wonders?). I [Helzner] do not find this to be a compelling reply in this case. In fact, I would say that when such data cannot be disclosed it reveals a flaw in the design of the survey. Experimental designs must be open so that others can run the experiment. Mathematical proofs must be open so that they can be reviewed by others. Likewise, it seems to me that the details of statistical argument should be open to inspection. Do you have any thoughts on this? Or do you know of any other leading statistici


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1 Jeff Helzner writes: A friend of mine and I cited your open data article in our attempts to persuade a professor at another institution [Brian Leiter] into releasing the raw data from his influential rankings of philosophy departments. [sent-1, score-0.801]

2 disclosing the reputational data would violate the terms on which the evaluators agreed to complete the surveys (did they even bother to read the description of the methodology, one wonders? [sent-5, score-0.336]

3 In fact, I would say that when such data cannot be disclosed it reveals a flaw in the design of the survey. [sent-8, score-0.497]

4 Experimental designs must be open so that others can run the experiment. [sent-9, score-0.576]

5 Mathematical proofs must be open so that they can be reviewed by others. [sent-10, score-0.474]

6 Likewise, it seems to me that the details of statistical argument should be open to inspection. [sent-11, score-0.418]

7 Or do you know of any other leading statisticians who might have a line on this issue, something that we could offer in response to this guy’s reluctance to share his data? [sent-13, score-0.384]

8 In fact, I would say that when such data cannot be disclosed it reveals a flaw in the design of the survey. [sent-15, score-0.497]

9 Experimental designs must be open so that others can run the experiment. [sent-16, score-0.576]

10 Mathematical proofs must be open so that they can be reviewed by others. [sent-17, score-0.474]

11 Likewise, it seems to me that the details of statistical argument should be open to inspection. [sent-18, score-0.418]

12 Or do you know of any other leading statisticians who might have a line on this issue, something that we could offer in response to this guy’s reluctance to share his data? [sent-20, score-0.384]

13 Jeff also points to this long discussion among philosophers regarding the practicality of data sharing in this context. [sent-21, score-0.285]

14 Here’s a relevant bit from my article (which tells the story of a team of researchers at a Federal lab who declined to share with me their data from an animal experiment, several years ago): If you really believe your results, you should want your data out in the open. [sent-22, score-0.412]

15 Here’s a page all about his “research on various aspects of statistical disclosure limitation, including assessing risk and utility, synthetic data methods, remote access servers, and secure analyses of distributed data. [sent-30, score-0.267]

16 I agree with Jeff that data should be disclosed, designs should be open so that others can run the experiment, and the details of statistical argument should be open to inspection. [sent-34, score-1.06]

17 That said, if his study is a private effort, Leiter has no obligation to share any of the above, and as some people wrote in the above-linked comment thread, the most obvious ways of releasing data could destroy some of the confidentiality. [sent-35, score-0.378]

18 If he chooses not to release any of his raw data in any form, then I think it’s appropriate to interpret his claims with skepticism. [sent-38, score-0.252]

19 I have an agreement to give Professor Healy the most recent data as well, as soon as we can retain an RA to assist in the anonymization. [sent-65, score-0.226]

20 If there is interest in sharing the data with others, perhaps Kieran Healy could speak with Jerry Reiter (also at Duke) about how best to do so. [sent-66, score-0.227]


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